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Michael Brown Might Have Robbed A Convenience Store. That Doesn’t Matter.

Michael Brown

When Ferguson police chief Thomas Jackson finally identified Darren Wilson as the officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, the police department also released surveillance camera footage, photographs and a police report that they said implicated Michael as a suspect in a convenience store robbery. Chief Jackson cited freedom of information requests as the reason for the release.

Interesting timing. Community members were outraged that the identification of the officer happened in tandem with this sudden revelation of an alleged robbery. Michael’s family issued a statement that they are “beyond outraged at the devious way the police chief has chosen to disseminate piece mil information in a manner intended to assassinate the character of their son, following such a brutal assassination of his person in broad daylight.”

Hours later, Chief Jackson stated that Officer Wilson had not known that Michael was a suspect while stopping him and a friend for blocking traffic because they were walking in the street.

Yet many people are talking about this robbery like it can sanitize or has some bearing on the fact that a police officer fired multiple shots at Michael while he stood with his hands up in the air, a universal sign of surrender and an indication that there is no threat of weaponry being used against the officer.

Let’s be clear. Michael Brown might have robbed a convenience store. That could be true.

And now let’s be crystal clear with laser focus. Michael Brown might have robbed a convenience store but that doesn’t matter.

It doesn’t matter because, in the perfect words of a friend who talked with me about this today, this is a “smoke-and-mirrors publicity stunt which implies that alleged shoplifting is justification for killing and obscures a real discussion about engrained institutional racism, the social construction of criminality along lines of race, class and gender, and the unequal social value of human life.”

What does matter is that all this chatter about Michael Brown being a strong-arm shoplifter completely plays into the disgusting old racist lie that black men, especially poor black men, are criminals who need to be controlled with force. This lie tricks people into believing that if black men are criminals then their lives are worth less or worthless. This lie fools us into believing that black male bodies and psyches are inherently violent in nature so we are justified in inflicting violence upon them.

What does matter is that holding up the possibility that Michael Brown was a thief, whether it’s true or not, places the blame on the victim and instead shifts the focus away from the deadly wrongdoing of the person with the gun. Even if Michael is proven to have committed the crime he is still a victim because the officer did not know about the robbery when he shot Michael repeatedly even though it seems that he could have been taken into custody alive.

What does matter is that by focusing on the robbery that has nothing to do with the interaction that lead to the shooting we are taking our attention away from the real evil at work here- systemic and structural racism that is killing men of color in our communities. One black man is killed extrajudicially every 28 hours. Michael Brown. Ezell Ford. Eric Garner.* Oscar Grant.* I feel pain in my heart typing those names and the list is much, much longer but I can’t finish it. I just can’t because it hurts too much. Whose name will we be adding tomorrow in memoriam?

Michael Brown might have robbed a convenience store but that doesn’t matter. Repeat this with passion to every person you hear saying otherwise.

 

*Warning: Graphic video content showing the death of a black man at the hands of the police.

 

 

 

 

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30 comments on “Michael Brown Might Have Robbed A Convenience Store. That Doesn’t Matter.

  1. Paul Hruz
    August 16, 2014

    He wasn’t shot because of the strong arm robbery that he did commit, he was shot because he fought with and tried to disarm an officer. Instead of confronting the police he could have listened to the police got out of the street and been on his way. You complain about someone being killed every 28 hours but say nothing about the black on black crime that takes thousands of lives every year.

    • Darius T
      August 19, 2014

      ^Amen. Janee, now that there are numerous witnesses who have said that Brown attacked Wilson first, punching him and then fleeing when his gun went off, only to turn around and taunt him before rushing at him, at which point Wilson shot him… now that your “facts” appear more and more suspect, will you apologize for your race-baiting posts?

    • Marc
      August 19, 2014

      You are one hundred percent correct!

  2. Lucious Jackson
    August 16, 2014

    The content of “Becoming a White Ally to Black People in the Aftermath of the Michael Brown Murder” was excellent and spot-on, despite the hyperbolic title. It is disappointing to see this post as the follow up.

    The robbery and assault of the convenience store owner does matter. It matters because the security camera footage published by the New York Times and others offers something that has been missing from both sides in the public debate following the Michael Brown killing: objective, externally verifiable facts surrounding the events leading up to a young man losing his life.

    Does a robbery of a convenience store justify taking someone’s life? – No.

    Does assault and battery of a convenience store owner justify taking someone’s life? – No.

    Does the video of Michael Brown robbing a convenience store and assaulting / battering its owner minutes before the shooting support the police narrative to date (namely that Michael engaged in a physical struggle with Officer Darren Wilson)? – possibly.

    If a video existed of Officer Darren Wilson engaging in racist or otherwise intolerable behavior minutes prior to the event it would matter.

    Despite the paucity of objective, externally validated evidence offered to date, most people have already reached their conclusion (you have already labeled the shooting a murder in your previous well-circulated post). Let’s stand back a moment and acknowledge we actually know very little beyond the fact that a young, unarmed man is dead. We can all be a little more patient for the actual facts of the incident to come out.

  3. Grace Shepstone
    August 17, 2014

    I really enjoyed reading your blogs about Michael. However, there is ALWAYS another side to the story and the main steam media IS NOT reporting it. AS USUAL. If you’re interested in hearing it, here it is:

    Here’s an interesting post from the folks at Ultimate Defense Firing Range & Training Center. Although they’re located in St. Peters, some of their staff and some of their gun range patrons are “insiders” to this story . Here’s their version, to answer your question.

    THE REAL STORY BEHIND THE FERGUSON SHOOTING

    Opportunity. That’s what people saw when they started looting and burning. Take away the assaults on police officers and just look at the amount of person on person crime that occurred. The businesses that had nothing to do with the original incident that were looted and burned to the ground, all in the name of “justice” for an innocent kid that was murdered by police.

    Let’s take a look at that whole “innocent” situation. The news media reported that an unarmed teen was shot 8 times and killed by a Ferguson Police Officer. Did you know that the unarmed teen was 6 foot 3 inches and 300 lbs, or that according to witnesses in the complex (not other police officers, WITNESSES IN THE COMPLEX), the unarmed teen along with another suspect blocked the officer’s vehicle from responding to a call by standing in front of it? After words were exchanged, the “innocent” teen rushed the officer tackling him back into the driver’s seat of the police car. As the unarmed teen was on top of the officer beating him to where his face has several contusions and his eye is still swelled shut this morning, the officer went for his gun and fired. I think we all agree that the officer should have let the unarmed teen beat him to death rather than fire the shot because he was an “unarmed teen” that was looking forward to going to college next week. After the round goes off, the unarmed teen backs out of the car and starts to walk away. The officer who was just severely assaulted by being punched in the head repeatedly, points his gun at the teen, tells him he’s under arrest. The unarmed teen turns and, according to witnesses, again the WITNESSES IN THE COMPLEX, the teen starts yelling at the officer daring him to shoot. He AGAIN rushes the officer at which point the officer, who was just beaten, fires at the unarmed innocent teen.

    Last night enough rioters overwhelmed immediate police response resulting in truly innocent people getting assaulted and store owners suffering huge losses. The criminal element doesn’t care about justice, they care about an excuse that creates an opportunity. The opportunity for Al Sharpton to attempt to increase his fame and to push his racist agenda. The opportunity to capitalize on uninformed sympathies and to justify criminal acts in the name of a thug that attacked a police officer.

    The Grand Jury is supposed to be today, and brace yourselves, this officer WILL NOT BE CHARGED and the opportunists will strike again. Throughout the area, more riots, looting, property damage and assaults on police officers. Police are already planning our suppression efforts to protect the innocent people and their property.

    After last night, imagine what would happen if we weren’t.
    ~ Ultimate Defense Firing Range & Training Center.

    • Andres Atencio
      August 18, 2014

      Where’s the legitimate source? This is an Ultimate Defense Firing Range and Training Center. There’s no legitimacy here. Learn how to discern information before spouting it out. I went to school for Journalism. This is not good enough. Please do find better credibility with the issue at hand. Sure, there are two sides to the story. There’s no author I can tell.

      • Nick Martin
        August 20, 2014

        I COMPLETELY agree with the message here. I am disappointed, but not at all surprised to see comments trying to discredit this piece. It’s UNCOMFORTABLE for whites (like myself) to admit that we have a real problem in this country. We don’t view people of color on the whole, and black men in particular as human. That’s the issue. The same constitution-toting tea-partiers stand on a soapbox and preach protection from the government, but remain eerily quiet as armored vehicles roll through ferguson and and police officers go on record in the Washington post stating that if you don’t want to face physical harm, don’t question them.

        Counterarguments to points like this are as predictable as they are misguided. Thank you for this piece, and especially thank you for your recent work on The Root.

  4. ghaliaa
    August 17, 2014

    Thank you Janee. Well put. I was just making the same comments in discussion with my teenage son last night. It’s sad that I need to add, but I am white, living in a mostly white suburb. I don’t think this should matter. There is no excuse for shooting anyone, except under the most extreme of conditions – we should all be able to agree on this. I’m amazed that in the US we still even need to have this discussion. I am glad to see people, like you, trying to take a peaceful, dialog approach to this complex and deeply rooted problem.

  5. Gene
    August 19, 2014

    This is so sad. You must get some facts before you write this stuff… really. Just taking the narrative and putting your little spin on it is a dis-service to the people you are trying to reach. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/boom-reporter-a-dozen-witnesses-confirm-ferguson-cops-version-of-brown-shooting/

    • Paul
      August 19, 2014

      Gene….But if she waited for the facts she couldn’t have wrote her race baiting story

  6. Darius T
    August 19, 2014

    Also, two times as many white men are killed by cops as black men.

    • Eric Robertson
      August 25, 2014

      There are more than twice as many white men as black men in the U.S. so if that’s even true it only reinforces the narrative that cops kill more blacks than whites.

  7. Marc
    August 19, 2014

    This is a sad situation because I fear unless the black community wakes up, then of thousands of more black Americans are going to needlessly die; but I also want to deal with the FACTS. A criminal is someone who commits a crime; like the robbery Michael Brown and his friend committed earlier in the day before he was contacted by the police.

    Several of the local neighbors are admitting that Brown attacked the cop in his patrol car and tried to take his gun. A cell phone video from one of the neighbors captures some neighbors talking about this and them describing that a shot was fired in the patrol car during that struggle. Brown took off running, was chased on foot, and then turned and “bumrushed” the officer again wherein he was shot again.

    http://www.ijreview.com/…/169172-officer-wilsons…/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/…/statuses/501556693382094848

    And as MANY GOOD CITIZENS of the local community are saying, I’m still trying to figure out how stealing TVs and electronics, burning businesses, throwing rocks at reporters, and committing more crimes is helpful to the situation like Mr. Gentry says in the following:

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WJQh0qJPiU

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTUqOBJsRdg

    Brown’s partner Johnson is claiming Brown was choked by one hand while the cop was INSIDE the car — seriously! Brown was somewhere around 6′ 5″ tall and almost 300lbs. Are we to believe that cops are trained to drive up next to a suspect and instead of making it easier to arrest them by getting out of your car, instead try and grab him by the throat through your window…please.

    And Johnson says Brown was shot in the back while fleeing, but the autopsy facts show this to be just another fabrication as well — no shots in the back were found. So Johnson is lying.

    How is a cop supposed to deal with a subject who is fighting for his gun and outweighs him by a hundred pounds? And before you answer, have you ever tried it? What would you do?
    Again, the best solution to all of this is what Mr. Gentry has said: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WJQh0qJPiU

    The bottom line is this: If you don’t commit crimes, the police don’t try to arrest you. If you don’t fight with the cops, you don’t get tazed, pepper sprayed, or shot.

    FBI statistics show there were 420 police shootings in 2012. 30% percent of those shot by police were black. MORE BLACKS WERE KILLED IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO ALONE THAT YEAR BY OTHER BALCKS…not the police or anyone else! Where is the outrage for those murders? The marching…the media coverage…the Al Sharptons and the rest?? And where are the fathers and mothers in these homes?

    The sad truth is that our brothers and sisters in the black community are being destroyed from within….not from without. Fatherless homes, multiplied millions of abortions, the celebration of criminal behavior, out of wedlock births, etc are the real culprit along with a continual mindset of victimization which mentally enslaves them into an existence of poverty, criminality, and moral decline.

    Blacks only make up about 13% of the population and yet from 1976 to 2005 they committed more than half of all the murders in the nation.

    As Ben Carson says so well, there’s a real problem going on and its destroying that community from within: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yFV2IJyI9fo

    According to many, solid, caring black leaders, the problem is exactly as I’ve presented…it’s an inherent one predicated upon a now repetitive, generational cycle of amorality and broken homes. Again, you should listen to men like Jesse Lee Peterson, Jonathan Gentry, Ben Carson, etc who speak from personal experience and are interested in actually helping the black community instead of just perpetuating the problem.

    The ‘main stream’ media ISN’T reporting all the facts; they’re only reporting the items which are assisting them in perpetuating the problem and feeding the flames of racism, criminality, and the continued oppression of the black community. It’s very sad, because real families and real human lives hang in the balance while they spend the majority of their time and resources on building careers and platforms and pushing their ideological errancies.

    You should really do yourself a favor and take just five minutes and listen to something like the following: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yFV2IJyI9fo

    You said in your article titled: 12 Things White People Can Do Now Because [of] Ferguson: “Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenage boy, was gunned down by the police while walking to his grandmother’s house in the middle of the afternoon.” — Wrong, he was fleeing from a robbery he had just committed and decided to try and take a cop’s pistol. These are two completely different things.

    You continued to say, “I am challenging white people to consider carefully whether failing to speak out or act because of those fears is justified when white silence and inaction mean the oppression and death of black people.” — How about challenging black people to consider that THEY are the number one murderers of their own people? It’s not the ‘inaction’ and ‘silence’ of me (the white guy) which is causing the black community to be rampantly traumatized with homicidal repetitiveness!

    You said, “White people CREATED and, for the most part, CURRENTLY MAINTAIN (whether they want to or not) the racist system that benefits white people to the detriment of people of color.” – Say huh? I do??? The last time I checked, I haven’t …my family hasn’t….my closest friends and relatives haven’t….my neighbors haven’t….in fact, nobody I’ve ever known on more than an acquaintance level has ever exercised intentional, overt racism … EVER! White, brown, black or otherwise.

    She continued, “This list is a good place to start your fight to dismantle racial inequity and shine a light on the oppressive structures that lead to yet another extrajudicial killing of a black person.” – This wasn’t an ‘extrajudicial killing’ of a black person. This cop didn’t go to work that day looking for an excuse to put bullets into some black person because he was so full of racial hatred and vile acrimony; he was responding to criminal activity.

    And who are you to tell all the ‘white’ people what it is they are supposed to do about the things going on inside the homes and communities of black Americans; things which most of us have absolutely no control over whatsoever? Perhaps she should write an article called: 12 Things Black People Can Do Now Because [of] Fergusun and listen to the black leadership that has been asking the black community to make a change from within —where it will do the most good!

    Maybe you should ask Planned Parenthood to stop setting up shop predominantly in these impoverished black communities and end their practice of slaughtering millions upon millions of black babies; more than any other race in America by far!! Maybe you should tell them to stop shooting each other, robbing from each other, and raping each other. The NUMBER ONE perpetrator of all black victims is another black American; not me or another ‘white’ guy.

    Is there any chance whatsoever, that you and others can stop for a second and consider the possibility that race DOESN’T HAVE anything to do with it? And that’s the point….because as soon as the shooter is white and the victim is black than race is AUTOMATICALLY the only option for some. But that’s not the case.

    And I am not making it as simple as I SEE it, I’m trying to get people to listen to those who have lived it and understand it way better than me; just watch some of the interviews I’ve posted and get informed from them directly!

    The black community is in a dire, detrimental spin into complete sociological breakdown. Something HAS to be done from within their own ranks; and it desperately needs to be done NOW!

  8. Karen
    August 19, 2014
  9. Bill Cockrell
    August 20, 2014

    I am a white man trying very hard to find some objectivity in all these competing and in many ways contradictory stories about the happenings in Ferguson. All I seem to be able to find are people grabbing only the information that supports the conclusions they have already made based on little but their own “feelings” about what they think really happened. If that were just the bloggers and the social media posters I could somewhat understand it, but the “legitimate” media is playing the same game.

    A young man is dead. That is cause for sadness regardless of the circumstances. Now more people are being hurt and perhaps killed because we as a people are no longer law-abiding. Our society is failing for a lack of responsibility. “It’s his fault, he was a thief.” “It’s his fault, he was a racist.” “It’s not our fault we’re stealing, we are protesting.”

    I have no answer that I think will make any difference. I don’t hear any public voices offering any answers that will make any difference. “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge!”

  10. Ken Kasper
    August 20, 2014

    It seems everyone here has the answers, me I only have questions and isn’t it journalism to seek answers to the questions?
    1. Why would a police officer shoot a teenager? He had to know it would be investigated. If I were a cop looking to shoot a black kid, I would find one more isolated and plant a weapon. I certainly would not do it with witnesses around.
    2. Why did Woods ignore the cops orders? You have to know that if you do that they are not going to just forget about it?
    3. Did this cop have a history of racism, PTSD, history with Woods? What is his motive?
    4. Why is the cops face battered with an orbital fracture of the eye? How did this happen.
    5. Did Woods rob a store just prior to the incident and was he high, this goes to state of mind. Woods can’t tell us what he was thinking but we can try to get into his head a little.

    It seems to me there are more questions than answers which is why you have an investigation.

    So all of you who have judged this case what will you do when you are proven wrong?

  11. laurie
    August 21, 2014

    It does matter, it does matter that he charged a cop and broke his eye socket, it does matter that these young men are acting like criminals, I am sure if I walked outside right now and robbed a deli, and walked down the middle of the street, and fought with a cop and then charged him I would also be dead. It does matter that all these protests are for what? Based on a lie, based on people using this to get power, people demonizing the cops, people demonizing whites, I am disgusted with the black leaders of this country and with the mob mentality of this whole event

  12. Mr. Miller
    August 21, 2014

    Poor writing. I wont call it investigative, let alone journalism. Sensationalism, maybe.

  13. Maya Agora
    August 21, 2014

    Having traveled extensively outside the U.S, I think our culture as compared to much of the rest of the world has become so egregiously self-centered and lacking in all compassion toward people we don’t identify with (or get something from) that I am personally ready to expatriate altogether. What bothers me about news like this, however, is how we continue using it to divide instead of unite. Our government (and our media) knows that if they can keep the people divided on social issues than we will never be able to unite as one voice against the bigger forces actively working against ALL of us.

    That being said, there is something else that bugs me about the whole Michael Brown discussion: This isn’t a narrative I can support until people start remembering the real definition of “racism”. Nowhere does it say that “racism” is “whites against fill-in-the-blank other race.” Having been a victim of vicious racism as a WHITE person in a black city for years, I don’t support it in any case. Nor do I endorse what happened to Michael Brown. But I get really sick of people acting like blacks and hispanics are the only ones who suffer from racism, so much that it has become taboo to challenge the conversation.

  14. Chris
    August 22, 2014

    Janee

    I don’t understand how an educated person like yourself can omit so much information and speak out on the subject of equality. You’ve been blinded by your aggressive ambition. The only people who will truly be moved by your article are the uneducated; need I explain why?

    How are you any better than the opposition who twist facts; just like you; catering to their selfish statement and your twisted definition of equality?

    Lay ALL the chips on the table and let it fall where they may. That would be respectful and gain plenty of positive attention in comparison to a one sided article such as yours.

    As passionate as you may be, you’re type of article is a big part of why educated WHITE folks could care less about your message. I caught the BS no less than 10 seconds into your series of articles and it completely destroyed any chance of making a real impact on my opinion.

    Do you agree with the below statements?

    The police officer had a fractured eye-socket as well as being beaten prior to the shooting; but lets forget this minor detail.

    Lets post pictures in all your articles of the kid having dinner with family; school pictures; older pictures of his younger innocent self. Because it is obvious that that is an accurate portrayal of what he represented on the day he brutally attacked an officer.

    In your original article you posted “Shot while walking to his grandmother’s house.” This brings up images of a madman racist white police officer gone haywire and randomly murdering a child by gunfire; a child who was strolling through the street whistling songs he heard from MTV.

    ———-

    I truly feel for the city. I feel for the community; the people who have been mistreated, bullied, unjustifiably punished by law enforcement. I feel for them for many reasons. Racism and profiling is real; I’ve lived my entire life in an urbanized setting and I understand the injustices. Along with all the violent protesters, looters, thugs, thieves, and liars. It’s people like you who block those injustices from being heard.

    It’s a shame. And to answer the underlying questions; no I’m not Caucasian.

    • janeewoods
      August 22, 2014

      Officer Darren Wilson did not have a fractured eye socket, according to reports from the last couple of days. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/08/21/darren_wilson_eye_socket_not_broken_by_michael_brown_cnn_says.html

      I have no “agressive ambition” as you say. I’m really surprised by how many people have read this piece. I wrote about this situation because I, like many people, was frustrated by another police killing that seems unjustified and the police response to the protests. I believe in justice and equity for all people and would like to see all of us moving together in that direction. My call for white allies is only one way to do that. And many white people have taken this message to heart and embraced it, so that we all can work together against racism. Others, like you, may believe in different methods but hopefully we are all striving toward the same goal and can support each other in the fight against racism.

  15. Stephanie
    August 22, 2014

    It does matter. Whatever events led up to the encounter between Officer Darren Wilson and Michael Brown matters a lot. Who knows what Brown’s frame of mind was after committing the crimes he did, and then to be encountered by a police officer. If there was a video of Officer Darren Wilson making racist comments before encountering Michael Brown, that would matter.

    I agree with others that Michael Brown didn’t get shot over a pack of stolen cigars. It is speculated that Officer Darren Wilson shot him because his life was in danger and Michael Brown was the person endangering it.

    MLK Jr. said people should judge each other by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. It’s ironic that many people don’t want an assessment of Brown’s character made based on the video footage of him committing strong arm robbery and assault, but at the same time, they want to jump all over the fact that Officer Darren Wilson is a White man. Ironic and racist…

    Michael Brown’s death is a tragedy for his family, friends, and all those who loved him. It’s also a tragedy that Officer Darren Wilson’s life will never be the same again. Nobody wins here. It’s lose – lose situation.

  16. Vernon
    August 24, 2014

    jiqqity niqqity curve …… he got what he deserve

  17. Jon G.
    August 24, 2014

    So.. I read 12 things white people can do.. and then this article, before formulating my opinion which is contained herein.

    Obviously Ms. Woods, you’re articulate and intelligent. I’ll give you these qualities as a part of your character. However, with that being said, the ability to write a column and publish it on the web as your opinion based loosely on argumentative facts, suspect postulation of what may or may not have occurred, or absolute rumor does not belie the intelligence aspect previously mentioned.

    One would hope that, any sane, rational, intelligent and well rounded human would wait to assassinate another’s character, person, or motive until all the facts and circumstances involving something so serious as the loss of a human life came to light.

    However, as the media clearly does in any and all such cases of this nature, they open their mouths, and generally insert their collective foot. there’s 3 people who know exactly what happened when Officer Wilson encountered Mr. Brown and Mr. Johnson. One’s Dead, the other has already been caught lying twice. And retracted and or changed his story at least as many times. What we haven’t heard, is the Police Officers testimony to the day, or the investigations conclusions to what they believe occurred at that fateful moment.

    So, to everyone who’s accusing this cop of murder, and stipulating that this was OBVIOUSLY a racist A**hole just itching to kill a black man. I think you need to check yourself. Anytime you simply start assuming things, the saying is.. assume is to make an ass out of “U” and “Me”.

    Rioting and violence, solve nothing. it muddies an young man’s memory, strains a grieving family, and stresses a community already struggling to just survive.

    Demanding this officer be tried/convicted of a crime he may or may NOT have committed before the investigation has even begun, is absurd. Should we apply this same practice to every young black male accused of a gangland style shooting anywhere in this country? Oh surely he must have done it, that’s what THEY all do. that’s the mentality you’re putting out there. Stereotyping the situation based on life experiences. Cops are bad, Cops are Racist, Cops are Dirty, blah blah blah.

    I’ll be the first person to tell you , Yeah Some cops are complete and total A**holes. And Racist. and Biased. and hundreds of other personality flaws, that we all have seen everywhere, and anywhere else in life. They’re human too. But, the majority of them are decent humans, who go to work to do a job not many want to do, put them selves in a situation not many would, and expect very little in return.

    If you believe the cops are a bunch of jerks, then go get your Criminal Justice degree, or Equivalent, Apply to the Police Academy and become an Officer of the Law, and THAT will effectively CHANGE the dynamic that you all so solemnly swear is in effect.

    Numerous witnesses have since stipulated that Mr. Brown charged the police officer, after a physical confrontation in which he assaulted the Officer. which does corroborate with the autopsy results thus far released. IF this is in fact the case, which btw, was also corroborated by Mr. Johnson , after lying about it at first. This means there is no case for murder, or any other charge against this officer.

    Why? you ask? very simply Missouri Statutes stipulate that an officer can use deadly force to stop a fleeing suspect in the commission of a felony. So, IF the officer was aware of the suspected nature of Brown’s robbery of the store, No crime was committed by Statute. OR.. after assaulting the officer he fled, or didn’t flee, and continued to agress, the statute still prevents this officer from being charged with a crime.

    I’m telling you this because I absolutely believe the grand jury will not find charges to levy against this officer, and EVEN if they do, he will walk away based on this provision in Missouri law.

    So what’s that mean? it means that as humans, we must stop being so petty, you want to change things? Use your Vote. Ferguson is mostly white ran politics? well.. someone in Ferguson voted for them. Who was that? Oh.. you didn’t Vote? who’s faults that? You want more blacks from your community to police you? GO APPLY. Keep your youth out of trouble so they can grow up and become the police, instead of teaching them to hate the F**king cops. Be proactive ALL the time, and do everything in your power to make your community safe, secure, and an environment people WANT to be in. after all, it is YOUR community. Take it back from the thugs, and hoodlums that give officers a reason to wonder if everyone they encounter is, stereotypical.

    I’ve no doubt that if this Officer DID do anything wrong, he’ll be justly dealt with, and I fully support that. I’ve zero qualms with ridding the world of bad police. I’ve zero qualms with total accountability among the Police, and more oversight of the communities they protect.

    what I do have a problem with is the character assassination and total hatred bred and spent for a man no one even knows, he was tried, convicted and hung by the community and world, before he even got a chance to say a word. I’m sorry that’s not the country we founded, and fought to defend.

    I would say, be proactive elsewhere, let the justice system do it’s part. Be judgmental and radical AFTER it’s come to it’s conclusion. And if there’s a need to rise up and fight the system, then do so the appropriate way.

  18. Eric Robertson
    August 25, 2014

    Every bit of information I’ve seen on this case is contradicted the next day by someone else, and each source is more dubious than the last. I remember the Zimmerman/Martin affair well. I saw the same pattern then and concluded that divining the truth about facts is too time intensive to be worth my time; it’s better for the purposes of discussion to stipulate that whether assumption A or B is true, conclusion C or D follows. Therefore if I assume that the young man was indeed a great distance away (over say 21 feet, the figure I’ve heard claimed is 35 feet) and had his hands up in surrender, whether or not he committed petty theft a short time before is in fact immaterial. A U.S. soldier in Iraq gunning down a surrendering member of ISIS commits a war crime, and obviously (or at least hopefully) the police are not at war with the citizens they are supposed to be serving, and so should be held to a much higher standard.

    If on the other hand the officer was assaulted by a 6’5 tall 300 lb man (that’s the size/weight of a WWE pro wrestling performer, after all) for any reason, an average sized man would be within his rights to credibly claim he thought his life was in danger and that lethal force was justified. Knowing a little something about defensive use of weapons in the real world (having read about cases written up by an expert witness by the name of one Mr. Ayoob) and having skimmed an article about the multiple GSWs in the autopsy report, I’m inclined to believe that a physical struggle took place. For myriad reasons cops are generally trained to shoot for central body mass and the charts I saw indicated a rather strange pattern around the right arm and head. While it might be that the cop in question was just a crummy shot when he shot his arm, it doesn’t then follow that he’d settle down and successfully hit Brown dead in the eye, or magically in the top of the head. The autopsy report also indicates that all bullets hit Brown in the front; if Brown’s hands were raised those bullets ought to have struck his inner right triceps, biceps, etc. If he were really “reaching for the sky” as it were, those entry wounds should in fact be in the rear (dorsal) parts of his arm. The most objective evidence which exists of this incident will be the autopsy reports, and the reports I’ve seen of those reports are preliminary, and as I’ve said, I’m not exactly an expert. It is however worth noting that this is the autopsy commissioned by the family, so any bias as a result of conflict of interest should be in the favor of the young man’s narrative:

    http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Michael-Brown-autopsies-Will-they-answer-the-critical-questions-272415121.html

  19. David
    November 26, 2014

    Janee,

    Do you stand by your claim that the robbery doesn’t matter? The newly released evidence seem to render it relevant.

    Should businesses in Ferguson rebuild?

    Should Michael Brown’s step-father be held liable for some of the properties damaged, in light of his calls to burn Ferguson down?

    Should individuals be able to fight with police without the threat of being shot, or otherwise harmed?

    Should individuals be able to ignore orders by police (e.g. to walk on the sidewalk instead of the middle of the road)?

    Best,
    David

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